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blackkrishna
Hip Hop Rookie
(7/27/05 8:44 pm)

Reply - Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Guns

whassup y'all,

i wrote this a couple of days ago and apologize if i'm preaching to the converted, but i'm trying to provide rhetorical and analytical weapons for others to use and legitimize eveyone fighting fascism as having something to contribute.

if you really look deep into it (as i have across the board for a minute now) stuff's getting too crazy, "they" are moving fast and completely confident in getting us to agree to anything (NY subway searches?), and denying it ain't helping... :eek

el tigre - i love that einstein quote, it prompted me to post this here...

enjoy as you'd like,

Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005

Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - Alex Jones Presents 600 Smoking Guns...


I think most of us believe the (unbelievably) comfortable orthodox safe liberal position: the U.S. government had some "prior knowledge" of the 9/11 tragedy.

(...)

Released: August 30, 2004

Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and �Consciously Failed� To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York�s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals.

SOURCE - www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

(...)

And... that's that.

We can easily fill in the blanks ourselves, justifying the colossal incompetence of a clearly "slow" President and his cronies, and thus the inevitable creation of a "post-9/11 world".

(Isn't it fun? "It's A Small World After All!")

Or, we can see the cover-up as cover-story for the rest of their evil deeds, and future wars with Iran, Syria, and whomever else the military-industrial complex decides to feed on next in the "War on Terror".

And it isn't just overseas, even if you don't give a crap and believe in America's "manifest destiny" to rule the world, they're moving so fast that they're already attacking us domestically. Thousands of initiatives used to change society into a police-state using George Orwell's "1984" as an operations manual: surveillance cameras, domestic military operations, indefinite detentions...

"In 2003, 6.9 million people were on probation, in jail or prison, or on parole at yearend 2003 -- 3.2% of all U.S. adult residents or 1 in every 32 adults."

SOURCE - www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/correct.htm

(...)

So: "But... what can we do?" is a common question.

But really, it's a sad, strange and illogical question.

Most times if you know there is a huge problem directly affecting you, barring an available quick-fix you still have the confidence to come up with a solution or investigate possibilities.

If you had termites, you might not know a damn thing about termites, but instead of succumbing to intellectual paralysis you'd simply look into it until you found a satisfactory remedy.

It's sad to see that on too many matters like this, one has to provide the Platonic ideal answer to convince others to recognize the challenge is worthwhile.

What kind of challenge is that?

Your "termite remedy" may not necessarily work for me, nor mine for you.

(...)

We need to create a filter to understand that everything they've said for the last 5 years has been a lie, and everything they say going forward is.

As a first-step: it's that simple.

Even a casual viewing of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart will tell you: they're habitual liars, and this is a brutal character indictment.

Those lies are then increasingly echoed and debated as truth everywhere else, with very "conservative" arguments for both sides of the Left/Right dichotomy. The "liberal media" doesn't allow Professors or peace activists on anymore, so you can see the "liberal bias" ain't exactly "biased enough" to be "fair and balanced", and the rare mainstream stories one could dig for are getting rarer and getting buried.

If my favourite sports team stops playing hard: I stop watching them.

If my favourite mainstream stops trying hard: I stop watching them.

The monolithic neo-con strategy is simple: agree on a set of first principles that aren't based on facts, and then repeat them until they become true - changing the world.

They are also classifying "125 documents per minute" (NY Times), while simultaneously raising the bar on "proof" to levels impossible to reach without the resources and reach of the government and mainstream media. This makes alternative views neglible in a "normal" world, and destroys old evidence of others - changing history.

(You can expect the information here to disappear sooner than later.)

Still, there is an artificially safe liberal position, as those who don't subscribe to partisan "liberal" ideology and yet also don't "drink the Right-Wing Kool-Aid" usually grade them on a simple curve:

"Well... if they said this, it probably means this, and that's really bad, therefore I'm smart enough to tell exactly how much they're lying."

As if we know.

As if we shouldn't trust those telling us otherwise, those playing through the pain of marginalization and ridicule to desperately tell us we're sliding off a cliff with "the most secretive administration in history" at the wheel.

I think they ALL deserve to be judged on how long they've stayed with it.

I think they ALL deserve the benefit of the doubt when we've see the lies.

I think they ALL show belief and disbelief require an equal measure of proof.

(...)

So...

You have controversial culpability theorist Alex Jones.

He's been doing this for 8 years.

He's had hundreds of credible guests on his shows.

His evidence is incredible.

His conclusions are insane.

If anything he says is right...

We're in trouble.

If anything he says is wrong...

It doesn't mean the rest is.

(...)

That's how they get us: they pick ONE thing that is either wrong or disputable, and use that to discredit the rest or the individual saying it.

We do the same: if we can't believe it, then it can't be true.

If we did this with our friends: we wouldn't have any.

If we did this with our family: we'd piss them off.

If we had to agree 100% with everybody we trusted: we wouldn't trust anybody.

(...)

This only works well on the truly marginalized Left, because our cynicism is only tempered by our worship of power.

So, power can be wrong repeatedly - like the revelations of mass-media laziness and willful incompetence seen in Fahrenheit 9/11; and then comfortably use it's inherent elevated status to get our attention once again - like our trust in the mass-media after the revelations in Fahrenheit 9/11, none of which have been followed up.

So, power is the lazy default of the masses, and the fake nihilism of "the right to have my own opinion" takes precedence over improving on it by adding facts and analysis. Intellectual discourse is prevented as even the most astute and polite challenges are dismissed as "rude", a common set of "facts" is unavailable for debate, and we're all weakened by agreeing to this flawed fascist paradigm.

I don't have to respect your opinion until I hear it, and if it's crap, I'll say it.

Please do the same for mine, if I'm wrong about something I'd prefer to stop saying it.

During the last election it became rude to politically disagree without automatically being branded as a member of "the other side", and thus a party to a set of views seen as inherently biased. This allowed the most uninformed partisan blowhards the "right" to their point of view - and credibility based on the inherent value of having a "strong" opinion as opposed to an "educated" one. The middle was steam-rolled into believing both sides were equally biased and uninformed, while one side was simply "playing the game" better (like on "Survivor").

This tragedy made us too dumb to understand that while both sides are covered in mud, one side was using a bulldozer. Their extreme views succeeded in shifting an already ignorant center further away from the truth on the Left, and from examining any substantial evidence as an antidote for the thin confusing gruel served by the media.

When it comes to entertainment we are gladly convinced of the merit of new facts, gossip, and other tidbits; when it comes to politics the honesty of arguments is seen as inherently biased for partisan purposes. This "funhouse mirror of lies" the Right holds up cynically warps our view of the potential honesty of the Left, leaving a malleable truth more easily controlled by the powerful channels of the government and mass-media, who are in turn controlled by...

(More on this topic is coming in: "The Blueprint - Volume 1: Seeds - PART NINE: The Right To Screw You")

(...)

So, you can google "9/11 truth" and find thousands of people passionately researching the truth with a fraction of the $65 million budget used to investigate Bill Clinton's blowjob, and finding more than a shiny nickel's worth of evidence.

I have, and there's a hell of a lot out of questions there.

But I also really like Alex and his 600 smoking guns straight outta Texas, he's still around for a reason, and he makes it fun...

Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK

Alex Jones - 600 Smoking Guns

www.infowars.com/resources.html

Alex Jones - 9-11: The Road to Tyranny (MUST SEE!!!)

www.archive.org/details/9...dtoTyranny

www.informationclearingho...yranny.htm

propagandamatrix.com/mult...ranny.html

www.mintruth.com/wiki/ind...t%20now%21

Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth: Professor David Ray Griffin on "How Religious People Should Respond" (MOM AND DAD MUST SEE!!!)

www.informationclearingho...le8765.htm

Red Pill Videos

www.heartbone.com/various...s.html#D41

Scholars, Researchers, and Analysts from the International Community.

911busters.com/

Alex Jones interviews Ellen Mariani, the 9/11 Widow Who Has filed a Bush Treason Lawsuit and Her Attorney, Philip J. Berg, Esquire

www.prisonplanet.com/120403mariani.html

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jerz2seatown
Grand Emperor Supreme
(7/27/05 9:42 pm)

Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

blackkrishna,

When I saw that about the New York cops during searches on the subway.......I quickly thought, dayum, it's getting serious. I saw in the news that they are looking to do this in San Francisco.

Also, what I noticed, there seems to be alot of job offerings for police/law officials, feds and of course......good ol' military. Seems to me, that while jobs are being cut and people are struggling to make ends meet......you have an enormous amount of opportunitities popping up for these positions and they paying pretty well too. Plus you look at the fact that they actively encourage people to rat on other people......oops, I mean, report any suspicious activities amongst your neighbors.

You throw in paranoia, which they do this by elevating and lowering the alert warnings.....man, they are slowly turning this place into a military state.

America is on her last legs it seems like.......you have the country being ran by political hypocrits who partner up with immoral business men. We all know this war is being financed so they can increase bottom line profits. They done sold the country out, she's bankrupt and once the masses wake up....they gonna enforce their military state. First they gotta get manpower up......and this is done by taking away jobs, and replacing them with police, feds and military.

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E turn L
Grand Emperor Supreme
(7/28/05 6:02 am)

Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

Good analysis Jerz.

One

Step Up To The Mic

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trezonx1
Blastmaster Teacha
(7/28/05 6:50 am)

Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

i was on the bus today( i live in the D.C. area) i heard the strangest thing. i was listening to music on my mp3 player then a voice said "Do your part as an american, report any suspicious activity or unchecked bags to the proper authorities" i have never heard this before. after that people were starin at each other for a minute. this is gettin outta hand.

true intellectuals see the world and cry, while everybody else gets to live their lives.

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E turn L
Grand Emperor Supreme
(7/28/05 7:14 am)

Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

Big Brother

One

Step Up To The Mic

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jerz2seatown
Grand Emperor Supreme
(7/29/05 12:09 am)

Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

E,

No doubt..........just taking it all in. I was talking to some friends and we were talking about how kids are bombarded with violence. Whether it's war video games, grand theft auto, music or television. It's like they are conditioning the young generation to be violent, aggressive. These are traits needed for the jobs I mentioned. Pretty much, fill them with rage and a taste for violence, then when they can't find jobs.....give them guns and say, fight for your country, this is your duty. Use that pint up aggression and help spread democracy.

I was actually watching some history channel and saw an interesting piece on the war between Spain and England. And how after the sailors fend off the Spaniards from taking over England.......England turned around and just turned their back on the sailors. Letting them die on the ships after they came back, living in unsanitized areas. Seems like this could have been done too, because they didn't wanna pay the sailors. Since the common folks are usually the ones that are on the frontline, they are expendable and can usually cut into profits.........pay, rehab and benefits. So actually, death keeps the overhead down. Since we all know war is BIG BUSINESS.

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jerz2seatown
Grand Emperor Supreme
(7/29/05 10:28 am)
Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

so now they are out to classify gangs as domestic terrorists. This is getting crazy.

who's that peeking in my window........booow, nobody now
Goodie Mob (guess they were doing more then rapping).

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blackkrishna
Hip Hop Rookie
(7/29/05 12:24 pm)

Reply Re: Amnesty Intellectual: The 9/11 Cover-Up - 600 Smoking Gu

Thanks for the props and props-back on the analysis, I agree we're moving towards a police state and pretty damn quickly - the casual "snitch on a stranger!" anecdote from D.C. really got me... that's crizz-azzy...

As a Portugese homie said about Fascism (they were fascist back in the day), the society is structured in such a way that there's little economic or social mobility, so to get put on by someone in a higher position of authority: you've gotta snitch.

I heard the same when I was in Cuba, where people lived in fear of each other and used power to rat someone out as the only means of flexing. As an important caveat: most were naturally happy and dealing with it well, but it's a big black cloud over individual freedom. And while most don't wanna snitch, most wanna get put on, so everybody do what they gotta/wanna do... and the most evil bitches win.

We can't even trust the law anymore, as they'll simply write the language of the law in such a way that it can be applied to any who "may" commit terrorist acts - like Saddam "may" have created WMD's in the future, so we can blow up his country now. So, if you "may" disagree with the government, you "may" be a threat and they "may" take you away... and once this is normal we're in a lot of trouble. I can only imagine when gangs and the U.S. military fight there's going to be hell on the streets...

Much apologies and respect to my black brothers and sisters, I know the legal system's been aimin' at you for 400 years and the above rules have applied in various ways. However, at least there was a civil rights movement and a white bulwark in the form of some basically fair laws that were selectively applied, and we could point out: "See? Y'all ain't even following YOUR OWN rules!"

What happens when they change the laws? Patriot Act 3, 4, 5... there will be no protection for anybody from anybody, and yet they'll STILL nail minorities first and harder to the iron cross of prison bars...

Classic fascism: just chip away at everybody's freedoms bit by bit to freak 'em all out, but make sure you have ONE key enemy to focus hatred on. Every white person (and others) searched on the subways can say (and are): "Hey, at least I'm not muslim, man... them doods is really screwed!"

The economy going into the crapper is key: it helps piss people off and limits their options ($ = fun!), so they're ready to act a fool and wil' out on somebody. More military bases are being moved to the southern U.S. in a "Rummy Restructuring", and with their economies getting massacred by their beloved Bush Laden Family there is really only one option to get ahead: put in some military time. Let 'em dangle a cocktail of education, healthcare, and murder in front of you, and as you said Jerz - because we've been accustomed to violence as "normal" we don't even flinch.

They're throwing so much crap at us so fast that I'm not sure where to begin shoveling, but I really think tactically we can't just rely on the info: it's been out for a minute now in a million sources, and has worked well but not well-enough.

I think it's not "just saying it from the heart" as I've heard it said, but framing it in such a way that selfish busy people (and I really mean everybody) can really see how they are getting screwed. The "same" arguments just won't reach everybody since we all like different music, TV shows, movies, etc., among a million (and growing) unique choices that can be tailored to fit each individual. It's getting harder for "one" message to reach everybody the way it used to, so the only big winner here is a source of massive influence and power like the government or mass-media, they are the only ones who can make it ubiquitous and use their trusted history to define a new legitimacy.

It (sort of looks) like "America is on it's last legs", and my folks among others I know have made similar arguments, I can't say I believe that but it's a valid interpretation.

But... I really think we gotta be careful with that red-herring fooling us into thinking a utopia will follow: if they go down hard they're taking the World with 'em, and have the tools to do it...

Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK

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